Talk:National Academy of Higher Education

This article was nominated for deletion on 2007-02-08. The result of the discussion was No Consensus.

Shouldn't this be moved from National academy of higher education to National Academy of Higher Education?? --orlady 05:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for agreeing and renaming it...--orlady 03:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for deletion

I am not knowledgeable about this organization, but I oppose deletion, so I removed the PROD template. I note that most of the article had been deleted shortly before it was proposed for deletion. I put back some of the deleted content, plus a bunch of internal links and other elements to provide some context. Reason given for deletion were "fraudulent" and "non-notable." I cannot comment on notability vs. non-notability. However, if (as I suspect) the real reason was the allegation of fraudulence, it seems to me that Wikipedia should make the information available to people, rather than hiding it by deleting the article. (Furthermore, somewhere in the Wikipedia lore there is a policy statement that says that negative views about an article topic are not a reason for deleting the article.) I hope my revisions have provided a relatively balanced view of the topic.--orlady 03:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it meets criteria for inclusion. You're welcome to provide sources otherwise.FGT2 04:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

POV

Recent edits by FGT2 expressed POV; they did not offer neutral information. Wikipedia is not a consumer advice service; Wikipedia does not offer recommendations on the value of services sold by private companies. The service that NAHE sells is evaluation of credentials against US education standards (not evaluation against their own standards -- that's your theory of what their product actually consists of). Similarly, the service that ADLP sells is accreditation -- putting "accreditation" in quotation marks expresses a point of view about the quality of the service.--orlady 04:54, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This website offers no proof they have the authority from anyone to tell what "a US education standard" is. Actually, that is decided state by state (see Oregon State Office of Degree Authorization). The website is registered to a person in Slovenia.

Accreditation MUST be approved by CHEA or the USDE. Without approval from those groups it is NOT accreditation.[1] Please revert the modification or provide links to prove this is legitimate.

As you have it worded now, the article is not factual and is VERY misleading. FGT2 04:58, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to escalate this into a full-blown revert war. You have seen my reasoning.--orlady 05:35, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So you now dispute the factuality. How? FGT2 07:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their website

The URL currently in the article is a page frame around http://web.archive.org/web/20041127012511/www.nahighered.org (!!!) --orlady 20:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Report on some "original research" (wink)

On 4 April 2007 a Wikipedia contributor attempted to replace the content of an article about a notorious diploma mill with a new version that claimed this notorious diploma mill was a fine upstanding school (but other schools with similar names are actually diploma mills). This new contribution was "sourced" in large part by citations that trace to NAHE. That edit was promptly reverted, based in large part on the existence of the credible article National Academy of Higher Education, which clearly documents why NAHE is not a reliable source.--orlady 20:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Newsweek

According to the article[2] published at Newsweek web site, the National Academy Of Higher Education (NAHE) is a highly regarded private American agency and its accreditation is widely accepted in the USA and Canada. N Jordan 06:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked at newsweekshowcase.com on several occasions and determined that it is an advertising website that indiscriminately publishes ads for diploma mills. I have not been able to figure out whether it actually belongs to Newsweek. However, the content clearly is not news content supplied by the magazine.--orlady 15:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You’re right, it’s just advertisement, check their disclaimer. Also, at the home page you can read fine letters: This site is compiled on behalf of Newsweek by Mongoose Atlantic Inc. The content is not supplied by Newsweek and the educational institutions featured have no affiliation with Newsweek. --N Jordan 17:41, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what connection mongooseatlantic.com aka mongoosemedia.com has with Newsweeek. This claims their rôle is to accept advertising enquiries, while this traces the IP address to México. --66.102.80.239 21:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Presidential Task Force on Higher Education

According to the well known Concordia College and University, the National Academy of Higher Education is established in 1974 by the U.S. Presidential Task Force on Higher Education. There is also a link to the document. Could somebody check this? --N Jordan 08:30, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I checked it a long time ago. My recollection is that the task force called for establishment of "a national academy of higher education." The entity that was established is CHEA. NAHE adopted the words in the report as its name, and falsely claims to have been established as a result of the task force report. --Orlady 13:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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